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Sunday, May 18, 2014

Thug Sucker-Punches Convenience Store Owner, Proceeds To Get His A** Beat


Chris | InformationLiberation

A nice dose of instant justice.

From Youtube:

The Adventures of
Convenience Store Man

Vol. 1 No. 1

Almost five years ago I met the new owner of the convenience store in our neighborhood. I could tell immediately he was a good guy and that he cared about his new neighbors. After all they were his customers, too.

As with most convenient stores there was a lot of riffraff hanging out, drinking and sleeping in the nearby alleys. Panhandling was rampant also. I asked my new friend if he could help clean up our neighborhood and keep those folks in line. "Yes," he said without any hesitation.

His initial motivation was to make his new venture a family store. In the beginning he had mostly men customers and very few women because the premises did not appear to be safe with all matter of unkempt folks loitering around the "watering hole" as it were. Today, women are among his best customers.

So how did he do it? Turns out his first career was in the Army's Special Forces unit. This unique training became a key factor in reshaping our neighborhood where peace and civility became the norm.

He kept order and respect in his store and those who did not comply were dealt with by the police or he handled the situation himself. He ejected the unruly from his premises, the alleys and the whole neighborhood. As you can imagine the families in the neighborhood are eternally grateful for the security he provides and come to his store daily.

But he has to be vigilant even now after all this time because convenient stores are easy targets. The unsavory people aren't much for social media so the word has not gotten around that in our neighborhood they're the target not the convenience store. We affectionately call him The Convenience Store Man because, well ... just check out the video.

We Love You ...
Convenience Store Man

Look for the further adventures of the
CONVENIENCE STORE MAN coming soon.

Here's a slightly extended video as the owner posted to his Youtube channel:



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don't worry.the cops are on their way.your own security starts with you not the cops/gov..the store owner was probabily armed or one close within reach but unlike cops chose not to mame or kill.I have no sympathy for the perp ,

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Saturday, May 17, 2014

Only "Extremists" Believe They Have a Right to be Left Alone

by William Norman Grigg

Ernie Wayne terTelgte is a poor man from a tiny village in Montana who believes that nature gives him a license to live. Barack Obama is a wealthy and privileged man residing at the seat of power who believes his position gives him a license to kill. Naturally, the Tolerance Commissars are pretending that the former is a menace to society, because of the contempt he displays for the system that facilitates the crimes committed by the latter.

Last August, terTelgte was fishing at Three Forks Pond with his eleven-year-old son when they were accosted by Adam Pankratz, who is employed as a warden by the Montana Fish, Wildlife, and Parks Service.

When Pankratz saw terTelgte reeling in a fish, the warden asked if he had a fishing license. TerTelgte replied that he didn?t need one. Pretending to concede the point, the warden persisted in demanding that terTelgte provide identification. When both teTelgte and his son quite sensibly refused the demand, Pankratz called for assistance, and Three Forks Police Officer Colter Metcalf quickly arrived.

Officer Metcalf made a brief and unsuccessful attempt to learn terTelgte?s identity.

Pankratz later said that he and Metcalf were concerned by the fact that terTelgte?s ?body language? was ?tense,? that his language was ?curt,? and that he kept telling them to ?walk away? and ?just leave me alone.? This is a description of someone whose behavior was defensive. But Pankratz and Metcalf, as representatives of the coercive caste, insisted on escalating the encounter by arresting him for ?obstruction.?

?We didn?t want it to go this far, especially with the son ? but we couldn?t identify him,? Pankratz complained, assuming that a tax-funded aggressor is entitled to sympathy because of his occupation.

Since terTelgte had no legal duty to present identification (Montana code authorizes ?stop and frisk?-style harassment of citizens, but doesn?t specify that citizens have a duty to identify themselves), the arrest was unlawful. As is the case elsewhere, Montana state statutes authorize police to abduct citizens without legal justification if this is done ?under the peace officer?s official authority.?

Plucking a fish from a ?publicly owned? pond without a license is considered an offense, despite the fact that entailed no violation of property rights. (If it did, who is the victim, and what injury did he sustain?) Violently abducting a human being who has done no harm to anyone, on the other hand, is regarded as a ?lawful? act, assuming that the kidnapper is accoutered in the officially prescribed costume.

To his credit, the victim was non-cooperative but non-violent. This wasn?t true of the assailants, of course. After Metcalf threatened to attack terTelgte with pepper spray, Pankratz kicked his legs out from beneath him.

Rather than mounting a violent defense against his captors, terTelgte simply sat motionless on the ground, forcing them to pick him up and carry

him to the police car.

During his arraignment before Three Forks Municipal Judge Wanda Drusch, terTelgte refused to defer to her authority or play his expected role as a penitent and submissive suspect.

?I was searching for something to put in my stomach as I am ? allowed to do by universal law,? he declared. ?I am the living man and I have the right to forage for food when I am hungry.?

The ?trial? last November -- if the proceedings merit that description -- was attended by 32 police officers from ten agencies, brought together by shared concern that the defendant?s defiance might prove contagious. TerTelgte was denied the right?supposedly protected by the Constitution ? to cross-examine witnesses or to introduce evidence on his own behalf.

To the surprise of nobody, terTelgte was quickly found guilty of the supposed offense of obstructing the unwarranted harassment of armed state

functionaries, and refusing to cooperate in his own abduction. Although his jail sentence was suspended, terTelgte later spent 30 days behind bars for ?contempt? after he declined to take off his hat in the courtroom during a subsequent appearance on another charge of ?resisting arrest.?

TerTelgte is clearly eccentric; he might even be considered obnoxious by some. It is reasonable to conclude that his actions have been unwise, a violation of the principle that each of us has trouble enough and shouldn?t be seeking to borrow more. But he is patently harmless. There is no evidence that he has ever injured or defrauded anybody, which certainly can?t be said of the government functionaries who assaulted and caged him, or the criminal entity that employs them.

It is the zeal to prolong the pretense of the Regime?s legitimacy that led the Southern Poverty Law Center to identify terTelgte as a public enemy, an exponent of what that self-appointed Stasi calls ?sovereign citizen ideology.?

Stated in its broadest terms, the ?sovereign citizen? concept holds that some people can exempt themselves from the law through the use of esoteric legal concepts expressed in impenetrable language. From that perspective, people who utter or publish the appropriate conjurations can seize the property of others, issue fraudulent financial instruments, and employ lethal violence against those who seek to hold them accountable.

Assuming that this is an accurate description, at least some ?sovereign citizens? are attempting to mimic the criminal behavior of those who presume to rule the rest of us. The SPLC and allied ?watchdog? groups offer no objections to the routine practice of fraud and exercise of lethal aggressive violence by the most dangerous element of our society. They simply want to preserve that element?s monopoly on the privilege of committing criminal aggression.

This is why the SPLC professes alarm that outrage over the terTelgte case has prompted some Montana residents to create a citizens? grand jury to investigate allegations of abuse and official misconduct. SPLC flack David Neiwert breathlessly ? and perhaps hopefully ? writes that this could lead to a rural ?showdown? akin to the April 12 confrontation in Bunkerville, Nevada.

William Wolf, who has organized efforts to create the citizens grand jury, has suggested that his group might arrest Rick West, the Justice of the Peace who sent terTelgte to jail for thirty days on a contempt charge. Gallatin County Sheriff Brian Gootkin described this as ?unacceptable,? accusing Wolf and his allies of ?crossing a line they can?t cross.?

?When there are threats like this, not only does it affect that person, it affects their family,? mewled Gootkin in a television interview. ?For someone in the family to live in fear, that?s not the way things work. When you start talking about arresting people and kidnapping people ? that?s unacceptable and nothing good comes from that.?

It?s appropriate that Gootkin uses the terms ?arrest? and ?kidnap? interchangeably, given that the latter is properly applied to what was done to terTelgte. The public record is barren of any recognition by Sheriff Gootkin that terTelgte?s abduction traumatized his eleven-year-old son and made him ?live in fear.? Apparently the impact of violence on Mundanes and their children doesn?t concern the Sheriff.

Gootkin also berated members of the proposed citizens? grand jury for ?bypassing? the criminal justice system. The real scandal here is the effective destruction of the grand jury, which was intended to be a citizens? assembly rather than a government entity.

From the Founding era until the early 20th Century, grand juries were bodies that could carry out independent investigations of official corruption and deliver ?presentments? to prosecutors in search of redress. Constitutional scholar Roger Roots observes that the grand jury, ?in its primal, plenary sense ? was a group of men who stood as a check on government, often in direct opposition to the desires of those in power.?

Writing in the Fordham Law Review, Kevin K. Washburn points out that the grand jury ?came to us as an institution that was respected for its profound ability to protect local communities ? indeed, possibly rebellious ones ? from central government authority. It was, in essence, a local check on Crown authority.? In that capacity, grand juries not only conducted rigorous review of facts, but also ?nullification of validly enacted laws,? Washburn continues.

During the reign of FDR, an executive branch Advisory Committee on the Rules of Criminal Procedure ? an unaccountable body with no legislative mandate ? imposed regulations intended to destroy the independence of grand juries. As a result, ?the grand jury is the total captive of the prosecutor, who, if he is candid, will concede that he can indict anybody, at any time, for almost anything, before any grand jury,? wrote federal District Judge William J. Campbell, who urged the formal abolition of the institution in the interests of efficiency.

Judge Campbell offered those observations in 1973. Since that time, the US criminal ?justice? system has reached almost Soviet levels of prosecutorial efficiency. Under the reign of Josef Stalin, Soviet procurators were ordered to achieve a 100 conviction rate. In the current federal system, notes Lew Rockwell, the defendant ?wins once every 212 times.?

Once the grand jury was re-purposed as an arm of the state, prosecutors were free to commit routine due process violations and destroy what remained of the institution of trial by jury. ?Waiving the Criminal Justice System,? a study recently published by the University of Texas School of Law, describes how the adversarial process through which the state must prove the guilt of a defendant has been supplanted with a system of administrative law in which prosecutors extract plea bargains in exchange for relatively lenient sentences. This is why federal prosecutors win well more than ninety percent of their cases through plea bargains, rather than jury trials.

This is a lamentable state of affairs, and, to many observers, a familiar story. This study, however, breaks new ground by showing that prosecutors at both the state and federal levels require defendants to waive due process rights that are vital for post-conviction appeals ? such as the right to effective assistance of counsel, and the right to obtain exculpatory evidence that can be used to overturn a conviction or at least obtain a new trial.

In the American tradition, the purpose of a trial was to establish the truth of an accusation against a defendant who is presumed to be innocent. The purpose of our post-constitutional criminal system is to ratify the defendant's guilt, irrespective of the facts or the law.

This is not the doing of eccentrics and ?extremists? like Ernie terTelgte, but rather of the respectable people who employ the exercise and the threat of violence to force others to submit to their will ? and who can rely on the unconditional support of the SPLC and others of their contemptible ilk.

Roughly a week ago, while the SPLC was pretending that terTelgte and his supporters are a threat to the republic, the US Supreme Court put an end to the illusion that something worthy of being called a republic still exists, or that citizens have any reasonable expectation that, if accused of an offense, they have a right to a trial of some kind.

The High Court refused to hear an appeal filed by Chris Hedges and several other activists challenging a provision of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act under which the president can order the indefinite military detention ? without trial or legal recourse -- of any U.S. citizen he regards as an enemy of the state.

That provision was struck down as unconstitutional by US District Judge Katherine Forrest, who ruled that it could lead to the seizure and imprisonment of people who exercised rights supposedly protected by the First Amendment.

As is their habit, the executive branch?s legal minions greeted that ruling with an indifferent shrug and filed an appeal before a more complaisant federal judge, who ruled that no citizen has legal standing to challenge the NDAA. That ruling was left undisturbed by the Supreme Court.

As a result, summarizes progressive commentator Thom Hartman, the military ?now has the power to label us terrorists, capture us, lock us up in jail, and hold us there without any regard for our Constitutional rights to due process or a fair trial.? That power very nicely compliments Obama?s routine practice of executing people without the benefit of trial ? including at least one teenaged U.S. citizen.

Ernie terTeglte?s view of sovereignty is that he has a right to feed himself and be left alone. Barack Obama?s view of sovereignty is that of Vladimir Lenin ? the supposed right of the Dear Leader to exercise ?power without limit, resting directly on force, restrained by no laws, absolutely unrestricted by rules.? Not surprisingly, the SPLC and its allies consider the first view unacceptable, and regard the second as mandatory.
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William Norman Grigg publishes the Pro Libertate blog and hosts the Pro Libertate radio program.


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Friday, May 16, 2014

Police Batons, Like Tasers, Are Only "Non-Lethal" When Used to Kill Mundanes


William Norman Grigg

"My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we'll put them on the ground, take the gun away, and then decide whether you have a right to carry it," promised Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn several years ago after Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen issued a statement recognizing that residents of the state have a right to carry firearms openly.

One of Chief Flynn's "troops" shot and killed a man yesterday (April 30) after beating the victim with a baton for refusing a pat-down. The victim, who appears to have been homeless, was already on the ground when the emissary of the Milwaukee PD arrived. Bear in mind that Flynn?s department is among the most corrupt and abusive in the country, and that other "troops" under Flynn's command have conducted "pat-down" searches that escalated to strip-searches and digital invasions of intimate anatomy by the officers. Any resident of Milwaukee who encounters a cop has a rational fear of sexual assault, which makes resisting a pat-down an act of reasonable self-defense.

When the victim of yesterday's shooting refused to be battered by the armed stranger, the assailant withdrew a baton called an "asp" -- which is regarded as a "non-lethal" impact weapon when wielded by a member of the state's punitive priesthood -- and began to beat the homeless man. In describing this act of unwarranted violence, Flynn said that his subordinate was "defending himself."

The impudent Mundane, not understanding that he has an unqualified obligation to accept whatever violence his uniformed overseer chooses to inflict on him, confiscated the weapon and used it to ward of the attacker. The officer pulled his gun and "fired several shots at the individual, striking him numerous times and ultimately causing his death," Flynn recounted. The Chief engaged in a tortured circumlocution in order to avoid using the phrase, "The officer killed the man."

Like tasers, police batons are imbued with curious properties that make them "non-lethal" instruments when used by cops to electrocute or beat a helpless person to death -- but that transform them into "lethal weapons" when they wind up in the unconsecrated hands of Mundanes.


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Thursday, May 15, 2014

The "Economic Recovery" Continues: Businesses Are Being Destroyed Faster Than They Are Being Created

by Michael Snyder

What would you say about an economy where businesses are shutting down faster than they are opening?? Well, a shocking new study released by the Brookings Institution indicates that this is exactly what is happening in the United States.? We are absolutely killing small businesses and the entrepreneurial spirit in this country, and as you will see below, the number of self-employed Americans has been on a downward trend for a decade even though our population has been steadily growing.? Traditionally, small businesses have been the primary engine of job growth in this nation, so the fact that study after study has found that small business creation is being crippled in the United States is a really bad sign for our economic future.

Personally, I write about our long-term economic decline nearly every day, but even I had no idea that businesses were being destroyed faster than they were being created.? According to the Brookings Institution, this first started happening?in 2009...

The American economy is less entrepreneurial now than at any point in the last three decades. That's the conclusion of a new study out from the Brookings Institution, which looks at the rates of new business creation and destruction since 1978.

Not only that, but during the most recent three years of the study -- 2009, 2010 and 2011 -- businesses were collapsing faster than they were being formed, a first.

And this mirrors an earlier study conducted by economist Tim Kane.? According to his analysis of U.S. Department of Labor data, the following is how the decline in the number of new business jobs per one thousand Americans breaks down by presidential administration...

Bush Sr.: 11.3

Clinton: 11.2

Bush Jr.: 10.8

Obama: 7.8

As you can see, this is a problem that has been building for decades and that has accelerated under the Obama administration.

We are strangling small business creation to death, and as a result the number of Americans that are self-employed just keeps going down.? Just check out this chart...

And keep in mind that throughout this entire time the U.S. population has been growing.? So the numbers in the chart above should be going up steadily as the population grows.? But instead they have just kept going down.

Meanwhile, the "economic recovery" is continuing in the corporate world as well.

On Tuesday, we learned that Office Depot is going to be closing 400 stores.

Why would that happen if the economy was actually getting better?

When this was announced, shares of Office Depot rose about 20 percent.

I can never understand why that happens.? You would think that when a business makes an announcement that essentially says "our business is failing" that it would cause people to dump the stock.

In any event, this comes on the heels of an announcement by Staples back in March that it was going to shut down 225 stores in the United States and Canada.

So where will we buy our pens and paper from now on?

If the economy really was "recovering", you would think that demand for office supplies would actually be on the rise.

But the only places where the economy is "recovering" is in places such as Washington D.C., New York City and San Francisco.

Those at the top of the pyramid are doing well, but almost everyone else in the country is really suffering right now.

When you kill off small businesses and the entrepreneurial spirit, it tends to increasingly funnel money to the very top of the food chain.? And this is precisely what is happening in America at this point.? In a recent article, Charles Hugh Smith?included a chart that shows how average household net worth in the U.S. breaks down by quartile...

Bottom 25%: $4,600

From 25% to 50%: $21,700

From 50% to 75%: $78,900

From 75% to 90%: $242,800

Top 10%: $1,606,600

As you can see, the bottom 50 percent are really not that much above zero at all.? In the old days, it seemed like almost everyone was "middle class" in America, but now that is rapidly changing.

We can see this increasing divide in the real estate market as well.? According to?Bloomberg, sales of million dollar homes are booming, but sales of homes at the low end are plunging...

"Million-dollar homes in the U.S. are selling at double their historical average while middle-class property demand stumbles, showing that the housing recovery is mirroring America's wealth divide.

Purchases costing $1 million or more rose 7.8 percent in March from a year earlier, according to data released last week by the National Association of Realtors. Transactions for $250,000 or less, which represent almost two-thirds of the market, plunged 12 percent in the period"

So this explains why it is almost impossible to find an affordable home in San Francisco, but the overall homeownership rate in the United States has dropped to the lowest level in 19 years.

But even in our wealthy enclaves there are signs of deep economic trouble.? For example,?in New York City the number of homeless children has soared to a new all-time high...

They're just like other kids except they have a secret. They are homeless.? Children are living hidden lives in plain sight. They are part a growing number of low income families who find themselves with no way out but they are working hard to find a solution.

It's a big issue. And it's growing. More than 23,000 children sleep in homeless shelters every night, an all-time high, according to the Coalition for the Homeless.

The only "recovery" being experienced in America is the one that is happening on Wall Street, in boardrooms in Silicon Valley and in the halls of power in Washington.

In the rest of the country, retail stores are closing at the fastest pace that we have seen since the collapse of Lehman Brothers, 20 percent of all families do not have a single member that is employed and?49 million Americans are dealing with food insecurity.

There is no way that we are ever going to have a broad-based economic recovery in this nation if we continue to destroy small businesses.? They are the lifeblood of any economy and they are the primary engine of job creation.

Sadly, our politicians seem completely clueless about all of this.? So they will continue to do the same things that they have always been doing and then wonder why the economy never seems to turn around.


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Wednesday, May 14, 2014

Long Island officers caught on video violently striking driver during traffic stop



WESTBURY (WABC) -- Two Nassau County police officers are under investigation after video surfaced that showed them violently striking a driver during a traffic stop.

Now, Kyle Howell, a 20-year-old drug suspect facing multiple charges, is filing a lawsuit against the officers.

The Westbury man says he has been repeatedly pulled over by cops, these two in particular.

The videotaped incident took place on April 25, when the officers pulled him over for having a cracked windshield. A nearby surveillance camera was rolling as the officers began to punch and knee him.


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Tuesday, May 13, 2014

California City Achieves New Lows In Anti-Bullying Laws, Makes Public Entirely Subject To Other People's 'Feelings'


by Tim Cushing

Just stop.

"Fixing" bullying through rushed, stupid, reactionary laws does nothing to address the issue and generally just makes things worse. Carson, CA, Mayor Jim Dear thinks he's going to beat bullying and he's going to use a new law to do it. His plan is a real gem, though, requiring only a one-paragraph summary to encompass its utter vapidity. (via Adam Steinbaugh)

Under an ordinance that will go before the City Council next week, it would become a misdemeanor in the small Harbor-area city to cause anyone from kindergarten through age 25 to ?feel terrorized, frightened, intimidated, threatened, harassed or molested? with no legitimate purpose.
1. This wording suggests there are legitimate reasons to "terrorize, frighten, intimidate, threaten, harass or molest" people aged 5-25. Sadly, the mayor fails to provide examples.

2. Thicker skin is apparently grafted on at age 25, at which point people can expect to be terrorized, threatened, etc. right up to the limits of existing laws. The subtext here is that people are expected to "grow up" and deal with bullying better at some point in their lives. That arbitrary point appears to be four years past the legal drinking age.

3. This bill is entirely subjective -- the key word being "feel." No one is allowed to make anyone "feel" any of the above forbidden feelings. As presented here, there's no "reasonable person" subjectivity bar, which makes everyone in Carson subject to everyone else's feelings.

This bill also covers "cyberbullying," which is incredibly redundant considering all of the feelings listed above. But it goes beyond simple redundancy, offering additional actionable feelings specific to electronic communications.

It cites ?hurtful, rude and mean text messages? as a key form of cyberbullying, along with ?spreading rumors or lies about others by email or social networks.
"Hurtful?" "Rude?" "Mean?" Have you not met children, Mayor Dear? They can be all of these things without being bullies, simply because their sense of perspective has yet to mature. The most amazing things fall out of kids' mouths. Some grow brain-mouth filters as they mature. Others don't. But most start out without a knowledge of societal norms -- the unspoken agreement that specifies that you don't point out what's different or strange or funny about someone else to their face. But to Dear, these childish statements may be treated as misdemeanors.

For additional unintentional hilarity, here's a statement from the bill's co-sponsor.

Councilman Mike Gipson, a co-author of the measure, said the goal was to make Carson a ?bully-free city.?
Gipson's idealism would be admirable if it weren't completely indiscernible from the sort of thing politicians who have long since kissed their ideals goodbye would make. It's a promise that can't be kept, stated as a lofty goal towards which the city will e'er strive, even if it means criminalizing protected speech and non-criminal behavior. If this effort fails (and it will, at one level or another), the goalposts can always be moved, or the definitions changed, so that Carson, CA is constantly approaching the "bully-free" ideal.

The problem with unquantifiable goals is that someone will want to quantify it, if only to justify the arrest and booking of schoolchildren. And when you make certain activities the target, that will be what's counted. The more "bullies" it prosecutes, the closer it must be to achieving Gipson's and Dear's utopian goal. This provides twisted incentives for law enforcement and prosecutors, both of whom are now involved in a problem that used to be solved by parents and schools. Good work if you can get it -- especially if you've got a crusade on your mind -- but it's hardly a solution to a societal problem.


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'Councilman Mike Gipson, a co-author of the measure, said the goal was to make Carson a ?bully-free city.?

What, he is moving somewhere else ?

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Monday, May 12, 2014

What Passes For Debate In 'Murica's Colleges


Chris | InformationLiberation

From Peter Schiff:

The 2014 Cross Examination Debate Association's national championship was held at Indiana University. The all African American female team from Towson University defeated the all African American male team from the University of Oklahoma. Though this might be a first for African American women, it is not a real win for women or African Americans, but a loss for collegiate debate specifically and America in general. I am not sure what the winners won, but it certainly wasn't a debate. In fact, to enable this hallow victory, the very concept of debate was thrown aside. In the name of political correctness and affirmative action, we have destroyed college debate, simply to bestow a meaningless trophy on students who demonstrate no actual debate skills. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. However it provides a shocking example as to why America is a nation in decline.

Link to full debate here -- just in case you think I left out the good parts. Trust me, there are no good parts. Notice how comments have been disabled!

Note, the original video above was censored due to a BS copyright complaint from the videographer. Fortunately, others reposted it.

See Peter explaining why the video disappeared here:

See this glowing and hilarious write up on the "debate" from the Atlantic, "Hacking Traditional College Debate's White-Privilege Problem."

Here's an excerpt:

Joe Leeson Schatz, Director of Speech and Debate at Binghamton University, is encouraged by the changes in debate style and community. ?Finally, there?s a recognition in the academic space that the way argument has taken place in the past privileges certain types of people over others,? he said. ?Arguments don?t necessarily have to be backed up by professors or written papers. They can come from lived experience.?

But other teams who have prepared for a traditional policy debate are frustrated when they encounter a meta-debate, or an alternative stylistic approach in competition. These teams say that the pedagogical goals of policy debate are not being met?and are even being undermined. Aaron Hardy, who coaches debate at Northwestern University, is concerned about where the field is headed. ?We end up ? with a large percentage of debates being devoted to arguing about the rules, rather than anything substantive,? he wrote on a CEDA message board last fall.

Logic and reason has no place in Murica's colleges. All that matters is how you "feel" about an issue. It's hard to believe people actually pay for this garbage.

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Wait - I watched, and was expecting an English language debate. What did I miss, nigga?

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