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Comments 1 - 20 of 26Add CommentPage 12 of 2 >DavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 9:54 PMLink freedom, to use that word on a planet infested with propaganda feels freaky, as if it is some novelty, as if people are so conditioned they would ask what it means, how they could join and what the rules are. i would rather discuss that freedom is a word that to some can imply order as opposed to disorder and refinement of order is the vector to destruction.
it might help if people knew the size, sophistication, capabilities, activities and true vector of the domination architecture. if the aims were achieved, the possibility of free thought would be eliminated, then that architecture would be just a pile of junk. that is to suggest that military domination is self negating, ie futile.
frank zappa was perhaps referring to this domination structure, the real prison when he said:
he may have meant it is all the theatre, that there is no man behind the curtain. empires are built on manipulation, much goes on back stage before being playe out in the public theatre.DavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 10:09 PMLink in part due to the self defeating prophecy of control, global hegemony, full spectrum dominance and all that stuff, with free thinking one can realise and unleash a true strength more powerful than the military complex as it negates it; simply reality.
unlike the task of continuous warfare to conquer minds, releasing them is to give people what they already have, their own minds. i see it happening as it must to avoid cataclism. the more this happens the less casualty there will be and the more recovery there will be from previous wars and empires, the incumbant included.
reality goes unseen rather than hidden, often denied rather than unknown. it is when seen as obvious as the folly of our history, our present and lives lived in the cognitive dissonance the controlled media and societal operators project and protect.DavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 10:22 PMLink if one looks at a societal construct, a system based on control, it requires continuous war, plots it on a timeline, it is heading for failure from the off. a quote i see as expressing this is:
the controlled media uses reframed arguments to further a premade decision, the political agenda. it does so in attempts to manufacture consent and to eliminate opposition. it puts up a construct that is or supports the agenda, puts up a negation so at the end people have been through both sides an end with balance as if nothing has changed. everything has changed, crime is the most profitable business on earth and new laws allow the commission of serious organised crime whilst eliminating competition.DavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 10:36 PMLink demo cracy in action
a number was being done on the people recently with the construct of a 'mining disaster'. peole were led through what i would call a shakespear cartoon, ie absurd nonsense presented but with drama pulling on people's empathy for 'trapped miners'. we were told bodies were recovered, their names were read out as on 9/11 remembrance. the story was that a wall collapsed leading to flooding and the public is then taken to the issue of how this could be avoided. the issue is raised that there needs to be identification of water deposity, stephen nolan giving the game away i thought by saying 'i thought that was coming next' or similar when there was a cut.
dark side of the moon
the listener with a logical mind, but with blinkers (often robust blinkers with educated minds), is likely to have believed they had the idea that is the solution to 'preventing further disaster' themselves. no, this is military psyops and how general mind control works, by having people believe it was their idea. in reality, by consenting to power to control all land and water supply is in reality agreeing to hand over the entire population of the planet to total domination based not on fuel but the survival necessary of drinking water. having thinking done for you by the media is often of the form (by outer meaning): one small step by a human (the astronaut who is reframed), one giant leap for humankind (towards oblivion). the true context reveals this.
what wasn't mentioned was monopolising water was the policy put out by the royal society, put out by the systems that predictively program mass populations with this agenda and it was the role of the bbc to sell the minds of the audience to the agenda. the agenda announced was that the oil racket would be taken down and replaced by orchestated shortages and total monopoly of water, a timeline where considerable progess to domination has already been achieved over many years.DavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 11:11 PMLink due to the official realm with reverse merit system here on earth, people exchange freedom for privilege and it makes for robust denial (mind control) when it is perceived that privileges are protected by denial not to mention the effects that group constructs have on people. there is much happening, of necessity there is much happening but zooming out on the situation as i see it, it approximates to 'we are all in this together' and adopting the presented paradigms play to the war structures which already manifest as madness extensions or megalomania.friendstacyPosted: Sep 18 2011, 11:22 PMLink programs on top of older programs
the original meanings buried
cow jumped over the moon
symbols hidden in nursery rhymes
a secret codeDavePosted: Sep 18 2011, 11:42 PMLink i try to backfill on unriddling the riddler but prioritise that the media will want to present a mind sales sequence in the form of presenting escallating disaster stories so people feel pinned down by this artiliary of trauma shots and thereby having agenda dictated rather than thinking outside of the box presented. the ambulances here are run by 'big military' i noticed when i last looked at the royal society, remote manipulation of things, people, the entire theatre is how minority influence is exerted, mind controlled people being predictable to thresholds. allowing dominant narratives to be run by the controlled media has by their own admission been much of how we are in this position.
if the traumas can be sold, they will be repeated, if they can gain momentum, all manner of stuff can be done behind such distraction. if there is perception of escallating attrocity, the unconscious interpretation could be that the earth is falling apart not deconstruction and transformation of constructs. there is likely some bunker mentality in play where for political reasons people would want to engineer catastrophy. that is potentially not dissimilar from the end of animal farm.friendstacyPosted: Sep 18 2011, 11:50 PMLink it helps to know how we got to where we are, to look at the past so that we can see where we are going. trauma, denial, more trauma, more denial, and you end up with nobody knowing much of anything about where we are or how we got here. if people don't know and/or won't admit that they are on a train ride to destruction, how can they possibly prevent the wreck?
the comic strip asks "who decides"
that is the important question
thanks daveAnonymousPosted: Sep 19 2011, 11:23 AMLink 205209Was this cartoon supposed to represent a complete thought? It's even less substantial than a bumper sticker.DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 12:05 PMLink i do not choose to be imprisoned by my perceptions of what some author intended, religions do that, the cartoon presented as the official 9/11 story did that. nor do i choose to have cognitive dissonance by jumping into a presented context without knowing what i am leaving. a frame of reference i try to look to is physical reality, my thinking depends on that. no food no life, being surrounded by brainbusted people who are participating in the agenda to regress them from brainbusted to some other form of life, perhaps just an atom in a desperate attempt to maintain a control function, is a reality i disagree with. thought police and all that. boo to that nuisance factory.
i mentioned by intention such things as global water theft as if i give priority to facts and i do, that strikes me as non trivial.
the cartoon mentions fairness. if i want unfairness in a human system, i seperate action and consequence by seperating the decider with as much distance (layers of people) as possible. i was flashing the car lights like mad many years ago driving out of cardiff, driving the other way was a fleet of cars. they had launched one of those ape cons, a welsh assembly and there were a load off SS cars with covert flashing lights escorting a new puppet king walla walla like they do in america. the distance is the danger, with freedom people themselves decide, those that disagree are before them, not some muppet.DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 12:13 PMLink one can show disconnections by putting together an argument. for example, the way i figure it, if david cameron was not an imposter and he himself wants to go have a revolution in libya, give him some weapons and parachute him in there. let him fight without the clandestine operators and net controllers clearing his path, if he is a leader let him lead. if he survives let him come back to london with his clothes dripping with blood to the praise of the brotherhoods and sisterhoods that seek conquestion to witness.AnonymousPosted: Sep 20 2011, 12:14 PMLink 67171The cartoon is a representation of the Third Way political movement, aka "communitarianism" -- look it up!
Communitarianism is collectivist. So, you have the group needs versus the individual's needs. Individual freedoms are group freedoms, however.friendstacyPosted: Sep 20 2011, 12:16 PMLink somebody said to me, "I bother to realize that those people are really my friends in a way."
i think he's right. i've got nothing against most people, even the ones trapped inside a system that demands you (the word "you" meaning all of us) lie for your living. i do happen to believe they bought into a line of bullshit, however, and i also believe that if i never speak up, then my voice will never be heard. some folks try to silence any dissonant voice, believing in the good of the group, and only hearing the chorus of good/groupthink. that isn't their fault. nobody needs to be blamed for any of it, but i feel responsible for saying what i think about how harmful i see it. and the way i see it, if we aren't deciding for ourselves, there is no freedom. if we are only allowed to answer "yes" as per newspeak demands of us, we aren't deciding. the ability to say "NO" is very empowering, something all humans are born with. just ask any parent with a toddler aged child if you doubt me.
(edit to add the following)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
quote wiki:
The basic idea behind Newspeak is to remove all shades of meaning from language, leaving simple dichotomies (pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness, goodthink and crimethink) which reinforce the total dominance of the State.
...The ultimate aim of Newspeak was to reduce even the dichotomies to a single word that was a "yes" of some sort: an obedient word with which everyone answered affirmatively to what was asked of them.DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 9:26 PMLink in response to 67171, i didn't know the name of the program despite it running throughout AI's domain and loyal servants. your post has helped to resolve some scraps of information i was wrestling with. resolved now thanks. had i known, this wouldn't have changed my decision not to register with what was presented.
what i tend to encounter is the pathology of belief in the group, not belief in 'group'. the systems we have are military in function, acting on 'vengeful gods'. despite all the presentations, skins like 'communitarianism', it is a shadow system. people when questioned in a military group tend to present disconnection to hide that there is anything behind the group mask. safety in the group really being of the form they are attacked if they express who they really are. there have been exceptions, division of course evaporates in such circumstances hence div V to try to prevent this from happening.DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 11:05 PMLink i don't look necessarily at whether something presented is authentic or not, i take the stimulation and monitor my own thoughts. for protection against brainbusting i observe my reactions to what is presented and to pickup pre-existing contamination i monitor what comes in and goes out. something i was reading was:
their word as to the therapeutic value of such treatment will be the final word. No layman would dare adventure to place judgment upon the state of sanity of an individual whom the psychiatrist has already declared insane. The individual, himself, is unable to complain. And his family, as will be covered later, is already discredited by the occurrence of insanity in their midst. There must be no other adjudicators of insanity, otherwise it could be disclosed that the brutalities practiced in the name of treatment are not therapeutic.
A psychopolitical operative has no interest in ?therapeutic means? or ?cures.? The greater number of insane in the country where he is operating, the larger number of the populace will come under his view and the greater will become his facilities.>DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 11:05 PMLink
It is to the interest of the psychopolitical operative that the possibility of curing the insane be outlawed and ruled out at all times. For the sake of obedience on the part of the population and their general reaction, a level of brutality must, at all costs, be maintained. Only in this way can the absolute judgment of the psychopolitical operative as to the sanity or insanity
of public figures be maintained in complete belief. Using sufficient brutality upon their patients, the public at large will
come to believe utterly anything they say about their patients.>DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 11:09 PMLink
under his control all psychology classes in an area, can thus bring about a complete reformation of the future leaders of a country in their educational processes ..>
it was interesting to read as i see it as relevant. knowing this is done now on a global basis, one can talk to people and awareness of their mental health reveals much about political activity and nature in the area.DavePosted: Sep 20 2011, 11:13 PMLink listening to what was outwardly presented as a 9/11 remembrance, stephen nolan, likely tavistocked himself, was presenting an 'american soldier' who just wanted to serve. what the bbc were doing was visible (presenting what to them was an achievement) and this is echoed here:
By lowering the endurance of a person, a group, or a nation; and by constant degradation and defamation, it is possible to induce, thus, a state of shock which will receive adequately any command given.>Comments 1 - 20 of 26Page 12 of 2 >
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