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Sunday, February 8, 2015

Legalize Drunk Driving


by Jeffrey Tucker

Most people have been there: a few drinks at a restaurant or bar and then into the car to get home. Am I over the legal limit? Hard to say. Is my driving impaired? It doesn't seem to be. But what if I get stopped? Will I lose my license, go to jail, and be disgraced in front of the community? It's a frightening prospect.

What's especially strange about this is the reason I fear. My arrest and punishment would not be for driving recklessly or for endangering other drivers. It would be because I failed a test of something that is not materially related to my actual driving.

The law is arbitrary and shifts with the political season. The perpetrators can't really be sure if they are over or under the limit. And we all have vast experience with people who drink surprising amounts of liquor and drive all the time, but never get in accidents and do not seem to be driving in an unsafe way.

Then there are the frequent cases in which cops arrest people for DUI who are stopped for something else, like a burned-out tail light. I've known of people who have been arrested in their own driveways, having gotten home safely and harmed no one. They are arrested and imprisoned, a humiliating and terrible experience for anyone to go through.

Clearly, this DUI enforcement has been a boon to the police but has it really curbed drunk driving? You might consider staking out your local bar, following how much people drink, and observing how many get in cars after. I'll just state what most everyone knows but hardly anyone says: drinking and driving is a national sport in the U.S. In the vast, vast majority of cases, no harm is done.

Murray Rothbard once told me that he thought drunk driving should be legal. I was stunned and shocked that anyone would say such a thing. But over time, I began to see his point. It is not outrageous at all.

He was exactly right.

With laws against DUI, what's being criminalized? Not reckless driving as such. Not aggression against anyone. What's being criminalized is the chemical make up of the blood in your body. That itself should be no crime. To make having a certain blood content illegal is essentially totalitarian.

But you say that drinking is associated with bad driving. Well, enforce the laws against reckless driving. Many more people drink and drive than drive recklessly. Some people drive even more safely after a few drinks, correcting for their delayed responses. We do this all the time, e.g. after a workout, when we are sleepy, when we are angry, whatever. Human beings adapt with rationality.

And you know what happens on New Year's some other holiday. People always say "be careful, there are lots of drunk drivers out there." Just the prospect alone makes everyone drive more defensively.

Regardless, the law has no business criminalizing associated peaceful behaviors rather than real crimes against person and property.

For example, grudges are associated with murder in the sense that a vast number of murderers are carrying a grudge. Do we make grudges illegal? That would be crazy and unenforceable, even if there were some chemical way to measure what constitutes a grudge. But we make driving under the influence illegal though it is roughly the same thing. It targets an associated condition rather than the crime itself.

Laws against drunk driving have vastly expanded police power and done nothing to stop the practice. The best prevention against unsafe driving from drinking has been provided privately: friends, services offered by bars and restaurants, community interest groups, etc. This is the humane and rational way societies deal with social risks. The police have only messed up this process by adding a coercive element that targets liberty rather than crime.

And we can see where this is heading. Texting is now illegal in most places. So is talking on the phone. Maybe talking itself should be illegal. Some communities are talking about banning eating. All of this is a distraction from the real issue.

As Radley Balko has said:

If our ultimate goals are to reduce driver impairment and maximize highway safety, we should be punishing reckless driving. It shouldn't matter if it's caused by alcohol, sleep deprivation, prescription medication, text messaging, or road rage. If lawmakers want to stick it to dangerous drivers who threaten everyone else on the road, they can dial up the civil and criminal liability for reckless driving, especially in cases that result in injury or property damage.

Doing away with the specific charge of drunk driving sounds radical at first blush, but it would put the focus back on impairment, where it belongs. It might repair some of the civil-liberties damage done by the invasive powers the government says it needs to catch and convict drunk drivers. If the offense were reckless driving rather than drunk driving, for example, repeated swerving over the median line would be enough to justify the charge. There would be no need for a cop to jam a needle in your arm alongside a busy highway.

Scrapping the DWI offense in favor of better enforcement of reckless driving laws would also bring some logical consistency to our laws, which treat a driver with a BAC of 0.08 much more harshly than, say, a driver distracted by his kids or a cell phone call, despite similar levels of impairment. The punishable act should be violating road rules or causing an accident, not the factors that led to those offenses. Singling out alcohol impairment for extra punishment isn't about making the roads safer. It's about a lingering hostility toward demon rum.

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As I understand, the major force promoting DUI punishments is MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving. It's so powerful that Google put MADD as the 1st hit as soon as I typed word "mothers", think about it. From what I heard, political pressure by MADD far exceeds anything that could be subject of the logic and common sense. MADD is famous for spending basically nothing on actually pushing their cause and almost everything on "expenses," aka salaries etc.

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Thursday, February 5, 2015

How Lithuanian Cops React to a Drunk, Aggressive American Girl


Amanda Warren

Lithuania has their own version of the TV series Cops as made apparent by this insightful Live Leak video. When watching Cops in other countries, a stark difference from the United States is so eye popping that it feels counter-intuitive at first, to the person who's used to American television.

An obviously intoxicated and distressed American girl is in Lithuania trying to get into an abandoned apartment building basement. It's 4 a.m. and she's waking the neighbors. But her problem might go beyond mere beverage spirits - she believes World War 3 is coming and that everyone will die soon. Thus, her insistence on getting into the door even though there is nothing there.

Any number of things could have happened to her to bring her to this state of distress, aggression and destructiveness. Or, as the cops commented - "she's just very drunk." So her defensiveness is little wonder as she makes the mistake of thinking that the cops will harm, maybe kill her - as one might imagine happening to her in the U.S.

"We just know that her name is Alison. We didn't have a reason to ask for her ID."

What do you think of how Lithuanian cops treated the American girl?


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It would be interesting to find out how cops in other countries view our police. That is how a peace officer acts....
Unlike our stazi that would have brutalized her on the US CORP(SE) Those cops were perfect gentlemen and gentle ladies. I think that this film should be shown in every U.S. Police station as a how to on how to subdue an unreasonable, out of touch person without brutality. All it takes is patience, empathy and intelligence. If Alison behaved this way in the U.S., it is very likely that the "abuse " that she feared so much would have actually been perpetrated on her. well to be fair they put the nicest cops on this show.
and the translation is not accurate, for example ""We just know that her name is Alison. We didn't have a reason to ask for her ID."" the cops said that her name is alison, but they dont have her ID because they cant search a woman (as in a male cant do a search on a female)
'Hopefully, they can do something to stop the WW3 from starting' !!
Damn they are smart them ruskie-commies - Pretending to be peaceful decent humans and what not ..
(Sorry Lithuanians, I know you think you are not Russians :) ) On the flip side, on COPS the American show every time I see a clip from an old re-run it's frankly newsworthy criminality. The police are always utterly despicable cretins reveling in busting some poor person for using a meager amount of some illegal drug. From watching the show you'd think their job was to rustle up poor people to be thrown into cages.

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Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Sober Woman Framed With 'Drunk Driving' Charges After Cop Crashes Into Her Vehicle


The victim of a horrible accident was charged with OWI to cover for a deputy's faulty driving.

MILWAUKEE, WI ? A young woman had her neck broken in four places after her vehicle was T-boned by a police officer who blew through a stop sign.? Even though she was completely sober, the police charged with drunk driving and tried to shift the blame onto her instead of the party at fault.? When evidence surfaced that showed her innocence, it was hidden and ignored.? The deputy responsible was never punished.

Terrible Crash

Tanya Helena Weyker, 25, had never been accused of a crime, nor had she even so much as had a speeding ticket.? Her life changed forever the night of February 20, 2013, when her Toyota Camry was slammed by a Milwaukee County Sheriff?s deputy and was sent spinning into a tree.

?I was just driving straight and he hit me,? remembered Weyker in an interview with WITI.? ?It was just a miracle I wasn?t paralyzed.?

Deputy Joseph Quiles had broadsided her, mangling the vehicle and causing her life-threatening injuries.? The crash was so violent that it broke her neck in four places.?? Her passenger suffered a ruptured spleen.

Ms. Weyker was in critical condition, yet the responding deputies did not miss the opportunity to manufacture reasons to ruin her life and lock her in jail.? Quiles?s colleagues used Weyker?s ?glassy? eyes as evidence of drunk driving, along with the claim of a ?light odor? of alcohol.

"I explained to him my eyes were red and glassy because I was crying," Ms. Weyker explained.? "They made me into this criminal."

On the police report filed by Deputy Scott Griffin, the alleged ?victim? was recorded as fellow deputy Joseph Quiles.? The report claimed that Weyker made conflicting statements and did its best to make her look like a criminal.

Charges and Injuries

To go with her terrible injuries, Ms. Weyker was slammed with 5 crimes:
Unreasonable and Imprudent SpeedOperating While IntoxicatedOperating with PAC >= 0.08 < 0.10Causing Injury While Operating While IntoxicatedCausing Injury While Operating with PAC alcoholWeyker miraculously survived the ordeal, but she had a tough recovery ahead of her.? A month after the crash, Weyker was in desperate shape.? She had drifted down to an incredibly low body weight of 76 pounds on her 5?6? frame.?? She was so weak that doctors said she required a feeding tube.

Her condition was complicated by the fact that she was a cancer survivor since the age of 3 years old.? As a child, doctors gave her so many doses of radiation that her spine began to curve, so they inserted metal rods into her back to keep it straight.? She had been living with these rods for many years at the time of the crash.

Unable to work, crippled, and drowning in medical bills approaching $1 million ? Ms. Weyker also had to pay for legal services to defend herself from the Milwaukee County Sheriff?s Department.

What?s worse, the case wasn?t being dropped, even though the evidence was clearly on her side.? The night of the crash, Weyker was in no condition to give a field sobriety test, but her blood was drawn during hospitalization.? The test results came back proving that she had absolutely no alcohol in her system.

Justice Served?

It is unlikely that such treatment would have occurred to the victim of any other crash that did not involve a police officer.? With no tangible evidence for the charges, the Milwaukee County Sheriff?s deputy pushed the blame onto his victim to ?protect himself and his department,? according to Ms. Weyker.

Deputy Quiles himself was found to have changed his story.? In his official police report, he claimed to have made a complete stop at the stop sign.? Yet a surveillance video captured from the nearby airport showed that Quiles rolled right through it, striking Weyker?s vehicle.

The department obtained the surveillance video only days after the crash ? but it was kept hidden from Ms. Weyker and her attorney.?? Instead of revealing the evidence and dropping the manufactured charges against her, the department sent her threatening letters demanding money to pay for the accident.

Fortunately, the district attorney declined to pursue the charges against Ms. Weyker.? The Milwaukee County Sheriff?s Office seems to have an unaddressed integrity problem.

In a later internal investigation, Deputy Quiles was recorded admitting his own fault in the crash.? Despite this admission ? contradicting his original report ? he is still listed as an active deputy with the department, WITI News discovered.? He was never fired or officially disciplined for the fraudulent report that caused Ms. Weyker so much agony.


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automatic response.when vou are a cop ,it can't be your fault.and everyone of the rest of the cops will automatically fall into place behind each other without question This charlatan cop is on medical leave and now going to more than likely get disability, unbelievable. The devil does wear a badge and a uniform. These despicable, pathetic cowards...these pukes who call themselves "men"...these liars and miscreants who don't have a drop of honor or integrity in their veins...these ruthless, sociopathic bastards...these uniformed baboons that serve as the hired thugs of the State to enforce the policies of the State, and are therefore protected by the State...does anyone still honestly believe these vile, corrupt, heartless, bullying, mentally disturbed FREAKS are "the good guys"?

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Tuesday, December 10, 2013

Drunk Cop Who Pulled Gun On Bartender Gets Community Service, Keeps Job & Pension


Chris | InformationLiberation

A drunk police officer who plead guilty to menacing for pulling a gun on a bartender will be allowed to keep his job and retire with a pension thanks to a favorable ruling by a Nassau County, Long Island judge.

District Court Judge Rhonda Fischer sentenced Richard Hefferon, a 20-year veteran police officer, to only 150 hours of community service and a $500 fine.

From CBS New York:

?That night, he made a mistake. He made a profoundly bad mistake ? ,? defense attorney Robert McDonald told CBS 2's Jennifer McLogan. ?The court and the DA?s office have both realized that the measure of this man is more than just that one mistake.?

2014 will mark Hefferon?s 20th year as a cop, making him eligible to retire with half pay and full benefits.

?And now he?s going to get out with a pension, and we?re all going to pay for this,? Ball [the victim] said. ?If it was anybody else, they?d throw the book at him.?

Because it's a police officer entrusted to uphold the law the charges should be even more severe, instead he gets off easy because his fellow parasite in the ruling class gave him a second chance. Sadly, many officers just like this one given "second chances" end up murdering someone.
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so much for upholding that "Use a gun get 10 years thing! Lame asses can't even follow their own dumbass laws!

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Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Drunk Cop Says He's 'The Authority,' Shoots Young Man In The Face [Video]


Chris | InformationLiberation

In this video out of Paraguay, an off-duty drunk police officer is seen murdering a young man in cold blood. Witnesses said the cop was shooting his gun off and said he "was the authority" before entering this liquor store and shooting the young man. The video shows the cop aim his gun at people off camera, two young men are seen cowering back in fear, then the officer pushes another young man back, the man doesn't show much fear or give into his intimidation and sits still with his hands resting in his pockets, the officer then raises his gun at him and shoots him in the face, killing him on the spot.

From LiveLeak:

A veterinary student was killed just under two weeks ago in Coronel Oviedo. The victim was identified as Atilio Recalde, Third Year student. The alleged perpetrator of the homicide is Officer Ramon Gamarra (28), who is still at bay.

Atilio Fil?rtiga Recalde (21) was shot dead in the head at 1:30 am on September 25.

The killing was recorded on the sidewalk of liguer store, which is located in the center of Coronel Oviedo. The alleged perpetrator is a police officer.

As mentioned, the victim was identified as Atilio Fil?rtiga Recalde, who lived in company Pe Island of Coronel Oviedo. And the alleged killer is Bernal Ramon Gamarra, police officer, a native of Caaraya? and serving in the police station in Potrero Guayaki, Caaguaz? district.

According to the data, the officer who was in civilian clothes and was having drinks in the enclosure when Recalde came on a motorcycle and in the company of another person.

The Lourdes Soto district attorney is investigating the case and said that according to the findings, there was no discussion between the murderer and his victim. The victim died on the spot, yet was still transferred to the regional hospital where he was pronounced dead. Witnesses said the officer was firing in the air earlier while intoxicated because he "was the authority".

The crime occurred in Bodega Bohemia, located on Avenida Mariscal Estigarribia. In this same place about four years ago and there was a crime and the alleged perpetrator at that time was also a police officer.

[WARNING: THIS VIDEO SHOWS AN EXTREMELY DISTURBING STRAIGHT FORWARD MURDER BY A TAX-FEEDER WITH A BADGE AND A GUN]

[The murder takes place exactly at the 30 second mark]

[If anyone can translate what's said in the video please post it in the comments below]

Pictured: Bernal Ramon Gamarra, alleged murderer of Atilio Recalde Fil?rtiga

La Nacion reports the officer is still a fugitive. The police response to the murder was to say they need to perform more advanced psychological tests on future recruits. Let me recommend a full proof psych test you can give to future recruits.

"Do you want to be a police officer and 'enforce the law?'"

If you answer yes, you fail. No decent human being wants to rule over others.

Update: The officer was finally caught, he's facing 30 years in prison.


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Imagine if the bystanders all pulled guns on the cop. Of course, the cop knew that would never happen, which is exactly why he did what he did.

Kings love unarmed peasants!

I was thinking the same thing. No doubt he'd be called a "cop killer" and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the whatever the thugs in power arbitrarily deem "the law."

It seems clear to me from the video Atilio not giving into his intimidation is what caused the cowardly subhuman to shoot him in the face, just so he could show how "powerful" he is.

A baboon can pull a trigger you pathetic piece of subhuman trash. I'm so sickened by this, this is the exact type of person who becomes a cop. I'm reminded of the video out of Tuscon, Arizona recently where a cowardly subhuman pulled his gun and pointed it at a store clerk to make himself feel powerful: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=44491

How pathetic do you have to be to get off on such a thing? I'm reminded as well of the cop out of Canada who shoved a crippled woman with cerebral palsy to the ground because she timidly tried to squeeze between him and his fellow boys in blue who were taking up an entire sidewalk: http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=41505

These are the subhuman predators who rule over us, these are the types of people attracted to such a job, yet the general public genuinely believes these are the good guys and they "respect the uniform."

All people are different, and accidents do and will happen. What matters is how the state reacts to the accident. From this angle, this story shows no problem in Paraguay - they don't try to pretend that the murder was justified. While in the US the most likely outcome would be yet another "internal investigation found that the officer acted properly because he was afraid for his life". "no decent human wants to rule over others" Yes, this is the truth beyond truth. If a human wishes to control others, they are wrong, wrong, wrong and should never be in charge on anything, ever until they can rectify this desire within them. So who is gonna stop the anarchy that is sure to follow with all these cops gone?

Or are your brains not intelligent enough to realize someone has to do the job of enforcing the law or everything goes to shit.

Unless riots, rape, murder without recourse wet your panties.

You mean what will happen if we leave massa's plantation? Anarchy is freedom, the word itself means no rulers, monarchy one ruler, oligarchy a few of of them, it's a positive term. It's not lawless chaos as you've been told by massa. Lawless chaos where criminal gangs run everything is what we have now, they call themselves governments, they rape, pillage, wage war, and murder without recourse, and they wear costumes so the rubes they rule over think they're legitimate.

?If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind??
? Fr?d?ric Bastiat, The Law http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

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Saturday, October 29, 2011

Iranian Terror "Mastermind" Described as Drunk, Pothead, Hooker Frequenting "Joke"

Scatterbrained used car salesman selected as patsy by Feds
Steve Watson


The already dubious ?Iranian? terror plot to assassinate a Saudi ambassador and blow up the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington, continues to unravel into farce with the revelation that the so called ?mastermind? behind the plot is a failed used car salesman described by those who know him as a ?joke?.

While The Justice Department is hyping the notion that 56-year-old Iranian-born U.S. citizen Manssor Arbabsiar was participating in a dastardly Iranian plot to kill Saudi Arabia?s U.S. ambassador, details have emerged that make the already farcical case look like a badly scripted comedy.

Local media in Austin and San Antonio spoke to several of Arbabsiar?s acquaintances in Round Rock and Corpus Christi, who described him in most unflattering terms, saying that they doubt Arbabsiar could have had any meaningful involvement in the supposed international ploy.

?He used to drink, smoke pot, go with the prostitutes,? Tom Hosseini, an Iranian who has known Arbabsiar since college, told reporters, adding ?His first wife left him because he would lose his keys every other day. This guy is not a mastermind.?

Hosseini also told reporters that in college Arbabsiar earned the nickname ??Jack? for his affinity for whisky, confirming that he wasn?t in any way religious and that ?he couldn?t even pray, doesn?t know how to fast.?

Describing Arbabsiar as rude, offensive and unfriendly, others noted that he was a ?floundering? businessman who at various points had tried his hand in running a restaurant, a convenience store and a used car lot.

?He was pretty disorganised, always losing things like keys, titles, probably a thousand cell phones,? David Tomscha, who ran the small used-car yard with him, said. ?He wasn?t meticulous with taking care of things.?

?He never spoke ill of the United States,? Mr Tomscha added. ?I always thought he liked it here, because he could make money. He loved to make money.?

Arbabsiar, who has a history of run ins with the law and minor criminal offences, was described in other accounts as having a preoccupation with traveling to Iran in order to procure the services of cheap Persian prostitutes.

Another local acquaintance, Mitch Hamueen, scoffed at the DOJ suggestion that ?Chevrolet? was a code word for the alleged terror operation.

?He probably wasn?t talking in code, he was probably talking about an actual Chevrolet,? he said.

?He?s the fall guy,? Hamueen said. ?They?re looking for a fall guy.?

Reporters also spoke with Arbabsiar?s apparently estranged wife who told them ?I know that his innocence is going to come out.?

The Obama administration contends that Arbabsiar tried to hire assassins from a Mexican drug gang to carry out the murder of ambassador Adel al-Jubeir during a visit to the United States.

However, the head of the drug gang turned out to be a DEA agent posing as a Mexican Los Zetas gangster. The story has all the hallmarks of classic FBI entrapment tactics that have characterized almost every major terror bust in recent times.

Nevertheless, Everyone from Hillary Clinton to John Kerry has pounced on the allegations, suggesting there is a wider conspiracy, that sanctions should be placed on Iran, and that even further action should not be ruled out.

It remains thoroughly unclear why members of the Iranian elite Quds Force would select a bumbling scatterbrained halfwit to communicate with hardcore Mexican drug gangs and carry out an assassination inside the U.S.
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Steve Watson is the London based writer and editor for Alex Jones? Infowars.net, and Prisonplanet.com. He has a Masters Degree in International Relations from the School of Politics at The University of Nottingham in England.


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Saturday, September 17, 2011

Judge Rules Cops Beating Up Seizing Diabetic They Thought Was Drunk Is A-OK

Chris | InformationLiberation

Cops find a man experiencing a diabetic seizure, rather than call for medical help they chose to strike him with a baton and handcuff him, only because he started to bleed from his head, the cops decided to call paramedics. When the paramedics arrived, they found the man's diabetes card and administered treatment, the man stopped breathing, presumably in a preamble to dying, but the paramedics were able to revive him. The report states he died two weeks later of "natural causes." The man's estate sued the cops for their excessive force, but U.S. District Judge Joseph S. Van Bokkelen just ruled the officers were "entitled to forcibly remove him from his car" because "he did not comply with their command to get out on his own." A three-judge panel rubber stamped the Judge's ruling, so he won't even get to have a trial.

From Courthouse News:

CHICAGO (CN) - Indiana police officers do not have to stand trial for Macing and beating a man they thought was a drunken driver, but was actually diabetic and having a hypoglycemic episode, the 7th Circuit ruled.

On Aug. 24, 2006, Jerome Clement, an insulin-dependent, Type 1 Diabetic, experienced a sharp drop in blood sugar while driving to work. He turned off the road, drove into a recycling plant's parking lot and came to rest on a truck scale. Clement was incoherent when a plant employee asked him to move his car.

Note, the man was not "drunk driving," but was instead parked in a parking lot.
East Chicago police were dispatched to the scene. Officers Jesus Arceo and Timothy Leimbach, who were told that Clement was potentially intoxicated, found him slouched over in his car, which they said smelled like stale beer. Clement was not wearing a diabetic necklace or bracelet.

Unable to rouse Clement, the officers physically removed him from the vehicle. Clement then kicked, flailed his arms, and jerked his head up and down, striking himself against the pavement. A bystander later said Clement had moved "like he was having ... a seizure of some sort maybe." He also reported that Clement's eyes were rolled back and he was foaming at the mouth.

The officers Maced Clement twice and struck him with a baton in the arm and legs while trying to handcuff him. Since Clement was bleeding from his head, the officers then called for medical assistance.

Is beating people up who are experiencing seizures really necessary? The man was slumped over in his car before the cops decided to harass him.
When paramedics arrived 20 minutes later, they found Clement's diabetes card and administered an injection of dextrose. Clement stopped breathing, but was revived on his way to the hospital.

Doctors diagnosed the man with acute cardiac and respiratory failure, severe hypoglycemia, and severe metabolic and respiratory acidosis. Testing revealed marijuana and a low presence of alcohol in his system. Clement died of natural causes two weeks after the arrest.

William Padula, the administrator of Clement's estate, sued the officers, the city of East Chicago, and the East Chicago Police Department. He alleged wrongful arrest and excessive force, failure to train officers, and condoning and ratifying the use of excessive force.

But U.S. District Judge Joseph S. Van Bokkelen found the officers' actions were justified, ruling that they had probable cause to believe Clement had been driving while intoxicated.

"In light of the circumstances and their reasonable belief that Clement was intoxicated, Officers Leimbach and Arceo were entitled to forcibly remove him from his car when he did not comply with their command to get out on his own," Judge Joel Flaum wrote for a three-member panel.

The court's hesitation to second-guess the snap judgments made by law enforcement, and the lack of evidence indicating the use of excessive force, led the three-judge panel to affirm the grant of summary judgment to the defendants.

"Since Padula's underlying claims for wrongful arrest and excessive force failed, his claims for failure to train and for condoning and ratifying excessive force must also fail," the decision states.

No officers were disciplined in connection with the incident.

Chalk this up as one more case of justice not served and agents of the state being above the law.

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Many Judges are just as guilty as the bad cops.

Cops probably paid him off. Scum.

Bad Judges, bad cops.... they will all face God.
They should be worried.

Gives a new meaning to the question, "What would Jesus do?" "Many Judges are just as guilty as the bad cops.

Cops probably paid him off. Scum.

Bad Judges, bad cops.... they will all face God.
They should be worried."

Are you serious? These people wont face anything. They will die in their beds many years from now without a regret. Take action, stop leaving the heavy lifting to god and get to work.

Kangaroo court system is a joke! this is murder. lets hold the cops and judge accountable! TO PROTECT AND SERVE MY FUCKING BALLS. NEO RENAISSANCE. REVOLUTION. "Many Judges are just as guilty as the bad cops.

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.

There are millions of us and a handful of them in comparison.

I'm disgusted that the majority of the population doesn't speak up or do anything to stand up for themselves.

People today do not unite for the common good of all. Common sense is gone. The elite divide us to conquer us, and most sit back and watch.

Everyone of those bastards deserves the horrid treatment they dish out.

You are right.

"When they break down your front door, what you gonna do, put your hands on your head, or the trigger of your gun?"

Guns of Brixton

this is so fucked up, there are no words for it. when someone is FOAMING AT THE MOUTH wth makes you think, immediately, that they are intoxicated? especially if it is in the morning when a person is driving to work?! my boyfriend has diabetes, Gd forbid if this ever happened to him, i would sue the fucking officers for every fucking penny. "natural causes" my ass - maybe if the police hadn't UNNECESSARILY BEAT THE INNOCENT MAN, he wouldn't have died of "natural causes" (*cough* the beating led to complications which killed him *cough*). and so what if the guy had a little bit of marijuana or alcohol in his system? maybe he had a glass of wine with dinner the previous night. maybe he has physical pain that marijuana eases. either way, this guy did not deserve to die because of these irresponsible, abusive officers. wtf. He should have known that marijuana is illegal because only cops are allowed to harm you. To protect and serve, themselves maybe? Explain to me how beating someone with a baton should ever be acceptable when the person is not being violent. Being Diabetic myself, this is absolutely infuriating. Having experienced quite terrifying lows (low blood glucose (sugar) levels), putting myself in his shoes is all too real. Who the fuck watches the watchmen? pot may be harmful but COPS KILL!! Idiots leading Idiots...most of the those judges dont know shit about anything. So then beating drunk people is A-OK? Let it be known, if you are drunk the PO PO can beat yo ass Sounds exactly like what happened to a buddy of mine. It was in a taco bell parking lot if I remember correctly, thankfully he survived it. Still lost his case though. Edit: Just realized both happened in Indiana.
"He also reported that Clement's eyes were rolled back and he was foaming at the mouth."
The officers Maced Clement twice and struck him with a baton in the arm and legs while trying to handcuff him. Since Clement was bleeding from his head, the officers then called for medical assistance.
I usually foam from the mouth when I'm drunk also.

~Spanic

*Just as a side note
Marijuana has been proven to have NO negative effects, and MANY positive effects, including healing properties.
A recent study at a university did publish the report.
And I remember seeing a panel of doctors debate this issue some 30 plus years ago on very late night TV.
5 out 6 doctors were PRO marijuana.
Its a crime to be happy and healthly.
Its sick that criminals run and actively participate in the judicial system.

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